Posted by: liliansloan | January 11, 2009

The Guthrie Family

The Guthrie family came from Berwickshire and finally settled in Fife.

 

Descendants of Robert Guthrie

 

Please note that the records until Robert Guthrie b.1762 in Eyemouth are not proven due to the lack of information on some old parish records. Although the records for these people have been their relationships have not been proven.  The facts of their births, deaths are correct.

 

Generation No. 1

 1.  ROBERT GUTHRIE was born Abt. 1655 in Eyemouth,  Berwickshire Scotland.

    

Probable Child of ROBERT GUTHRIE is:

2.   i.   ROBERT GUTHRIE, b. Abt. 1670, Berwicksire Scotland.

 Generation No. 2

 

2.  ROBERT GUTHRIE (ROBERT) was born Abt. 1670 in Berwicksire Scotland.  He married ELIZABETH CRAW.  She was born Abt. 1670 in Coldingham Scotland.

    

Children of ROBERT GUTHRIE and ELIZABETH CRAW are:

     i.   ROBERT GUTHRIE b. 13 Jan 1693/94, Coldinham Berwickshire Scotland.

 

More About ROBERT GUTHRIE:

Christening: 13 Jan 1694/95, Coldingham, Berwickshire, Scotland

 

3.   ii.  PATRICK GUTHRIE, b. 25 Apr 1697, Coldingham, Berwickshire, Scotland.

     iii. JANET GUTHRIE, b. 26 Mar 1699, Coldinham Berwickshire.

 

More About JANET GUTHRIE:

Christening: 26 Mar 1699, Coldingham, Berwickshire, Scotland

 

     iv.  ELIZABETH GUTHRIE, b. 28 Jun 1702, Coldinham Berwickshire.

 

More About ELIZABETH GUTHRIE:

Christening: 28 Jun 1702, Coldingham, Berwickshire, Scotland

 

     v.   MARGARET GUTHRIE, b. 26 Sep 1703, Coldinham Berwickshire.

 

More About MARGARET GUTHRIE:

Christening: 26 Sep 1703, Coldingham, Berwickshire, Scotland

 Generation No. 3

 3.  PATRICK GUTHRIE (ROBERT, ROBERT) was born 25 Apr 1697 in Coldingham, Berwickshire, Scotland.

 

More About PATRICK GUTHRIE:

Christening: 25 Apr 1697, Coldingham, Berwickshire, Scotland

    

Children of PATRICK GUTHRIE are:

     i.   MARGARET4 GUTHRIE, b. 12 Apr 1721, Edrom Berwickshire Scotland.

 More About MARGARET GUTHRIE:

Christening: 12 Apr 1721, Edrom, Berwickshire, Scotland

 4.   ii.  JOHN GUTHRIE, b. 02 Apr 1727, Edrom Berwickshire Scotland.

 Generation No. 4

 

4.  JOHN GUTHRIE (PATRICK, ROBERT, ROBERT) was born 02 Apr 1727 in Edrom Berwickshire Scotland.  He married (1) SARAH MITCHELL.  She was born Abt. 1720.  He may also have married (2) ALISON PURVIS.  She was born Abt. 1730.

 

Notes for JOHN GUTHRIE:

Eyemouth. Minutes of the Heritors meeting

1776 those present include John Guthrie, portioner

    

Children of JOHN GUTHRIE and SARAH MITCHELL are:

5.   i.   ROBERT GUTHRIE, b. 24 Jun 1749, Eyemouth, Berwickshire, Scotland.

     ii.  ALISON GUTHRIE, b. 01 Mar 1750/51, Eymouth Berwickshire Scotland; d. Bef. 1861.

 

More About ALISON GUTHRIE:

Christening: 01 Mar 1751/52, Eyemouth, Berwickshire, Scotland

 

     iii. GEORGE GUTHRIE, b. 01 Apr 1751, Eymouth Berwickshire Scotland.

 

More About GEORGE GUTHRIE:

Christening: 01 Apr 1751, Eyemouth, Berwickshire, Scotland

 

     iv.  HANNAH GUTHRIE, b. 11 Jun 1753, Eymouth Berwickshire Scotland.

 

More About HANNAH GUTHRIE:

Christening: 11 Jun 1753, Eyemouth, Berwickshire, Scotland

 

6.   v.   ALEXANDER GUTHRIE, b. 13 Feb 1758, Eyemouth, Berwickshire, Scotland.

     vi.  ALISON GUTHRIE, b. 16 Oct 1761, Eyemouth, Berwickshire, Scotland.

 Child of JOHN GUTHRIE and ALISON PURVIS is:

     vii. MARY GUTHRIE89, b. 15 Feb 1759, , Foulden, Berwick, Scotland.

 More About MARY GUTHRIE:

Christening: Foulden, Berwickshire, Scotland

 Generation No. 5

 

5.  ROBERT  GUTHRIE (JOHN, PATRICK, ROBERT, ROBERT)89 was born 24 Jun 1749 in Eyemouth, Berwickshire, Scotland.  He married ELIZABETH HUME 09 May 1755 in Langton Berwickshire Scotland.  She was born Abt. 1742.

 

More About ROBERT GUTHRIE:

Christening: 24 Jun 1749, Eyemouth, Berwickshire, Scotland

Occupation: shoemaker

    

Children of ROBERT GUTHRIE and ELIZABETH HUME are:

7.   i.   ROBERT GUTHRIE, b. 08 Aug 1762, Eyemouth Berwickshire Scotland; d. WFT Est. 1822-1848,

Robert begins the line of proven anscestry

     ii.  AGNES GUTHRIE, b. 20 Jun 1773, Eymouth Berwickshire Scotland; m. GEORGE UNKNOWN, Jul 1785, Berwick; b. Abt. 1770, Eyemouth Scotland.

 

More About AGNES GUTHRIE:

Christening: 27 Jun 1773, Eyemouth, Berwickshire, Scotland

 6.  ALEXANDER GUTHRIE (JOHN, PATRICK, ROBERT,ROBERT)  was born 13 Feb 1758 in Eyemouth, Berwickshire, Scotland, and died 191.  He married JEAN PAULIN, daughter of GEORGE PAULIN and JEAN PENTLAND.  She was born Abt. 1760.

 

More About ALEXANDER GUTHRIE:

Christening: 17 Feb 1758, Eyemouth Scotland

    

Children of ALEXANDER GUTHRIE and JEAN PAULIN are:

     i.   JOHN GUTHRIE, b. 26 Jun 1770, Ladykirk Berwickshire Scotland.

 

More About JOHN GUTHRIE:

Christening: 26 Jun 1780, Ladykirk, Berwickshire, Scotland

 

     ii.  ISOBEL GUTHRIE, b. 21 Jul 1776, Ladykirk, Berwickshire, Scotland.

 

More About ISOBEL GUTHRIE:

Christening: 21 Jul 1776, Ladykirk, Berwickshire, Scotland

 

     iii. ALEXANDER GUTHRIE, b. 25 Aug 1776, Ladykirk Berwickshire Scotland; d. 02 Feb 1812, Edrom Berwickshire Scotland.

 

More About ALEXANDER GUTHRIE:

Christening: 17 May 1785, Ladykirk, Berwickshire, Scotland

 

8.   iv.  ROBERT GUTHRIE, b. 17 Mar 1782, Gordon, Berwickshire, Scotland.

9.   v.   MAGDALENE GUTHRIE, b. 26 May 1782, Ladykirk, Berwickshire, Scotland.

     vi.  THOMAS GUTHRIE, b. 05 Aug 1784, Ladykirk Berwickshire Scotland.

 

More About THOMAS GUTHRIE:

Christening: 05 Aug 1784, Ladykirk, Berwickshire, Scotland

 

     vii. ALEXANDER GUTHRIE, b. 17 May 1787, Ladykirk Berwickshire Scotland; d. 02 Feb 1812, Edrom Berwickshire Scotland.

 

More About ALEXANDER GUTHRIE:

Christening: 25 Aug 1776, Ladykirk, Berwickshire, Scotland

 

     viii.     ISOBEL GUTHRIE, b. 04 Apr 1806, Ladykirk Berwickshire Scotland; d. 16 Oct 1814, Edrom Berwickshire Scotland.

 

More About ISOBEL GUTHRIE:

Christening: 21 Jul 1776, Ladykirk, Berwickshire, Scotland

 

 

Generation No. 6

 

7.  ROBERT GUTHRIE (ROBERT, JOHN, PATRICK, ROBERT, ROBERT) was born 08 Aug 1762 in Eyemouth Berwickshire Scotland, and died WFT Est. 1822-1848.  He married (1) ELIZABETH WILSON 09 Aug 1794 in Eyemouth, daughter of ROBERT WILSON and ELIZABETH MELVILLE.  She was born 18 Sep 1735 in Duns Berwickshire  Scotland, and died Bef.1803.  He married (2) GRACE PATTERSON 03 Jul 1803 in Eyemouth Berwickshire Scotland, daughter of JOHN PATERSON.  She was born 30 Nov 1774 in Eyemouth, Berwickshire, Scotland.

 

Notes for ROBERT GUTHRIE:

The parents of Robert Guthrie are uncertain. There are a number of possibilities in the area as Robert and John seems to have been a common name in the Guthrie families of Berwickshire.

 

More About ROBERT GUTHRIE:

Christening: 08 Aug 1762, Eyemouth Scotland

Occupation: shoemaker

Record Change: 16 Nov 2002

 

More About ELIZABETH WILSON:

Christening: 10 Mar 1771, Hutton

    

Children of ROBERT GUTHRIE and ELIZABETH WILSON are:

     i.   AGNES GUTHRIE, d. 1808.

     ii.  JENNET GUTHRIE, b. 06 Jul 1795, Eyemouth scotland; d. Bef. 1797.

 

More About JENNET GUTHRIE:

Christening: 16 Apr 1797, Eyemouth

 

     iii. JANE GUTHRIE b. 08 Apr 1797, Eyemouth

10.  iv.  JENNET  GUTHRIE, b. 08 Apr 1797, Berwickshire Eyemouth Scotland.

     v.   AGNES GUTHRIE, b. 20 Dec 1798, Eyemouth, Berwickshire, Scotland.

 

More About AGNES GUTHRIE:

Christening: 20 Dec 1798, eyemouth, Berwickshire, Scotland

 

11.  vi.  THOMAS GUTHRIE, b. Bet. 1799 – 1805, Eyemouth, Berwick Scotland; d. 02 Dec 1886, Meadowside Bathgate Midlothan Scotland.

 

    

Children of ROBERT GUTHRIE and GRACE PATTERSON are:

     vii. MARGARET GUTHRIE.

12.  viii.AGNES GUTHRIE, b. 20 Dec 1808, Eyemouth scotland.

     ix.  ARCHIBALD GUTHRIE b. Abt. 1810, Eyemouth scotland.

13.  x.   JOHN GUTHRIE, b. 30 Jun 1811, Eyemouth scotland.

     xi.  MARGARET GUTHRIE, b. Abt. 1812, Eyemouth scotland.

     xii. ROBERT GUTHRIE, b. Abt. 1813, Eyemouth scotland.

     xiii.GEORGE GUTHRIE b. 26 Jan 1814, Eyemouth scotland.

 

More About GEORGE GUTHRIE:

Christening: 26 Jan 1814, Eyemouth237

 

     xiv. GRACE GUTHRIE, b. 26 Jan 1814, Eyemouth Scotland.

 

More About GRACE GUTHRIE:

Christening: 26 Jan 1814, Eyemouth

 

 

8.  ROBERT GUTHRIE (ALEXANDER, JOHN, PATRICK, ROBERT, ROBERT)was born 17 Mar 1782 in Gordon, Berwickshire, Scotland.  He married KATHARINE WELCH.  She was born Abt. 1780.

 

More About ROBERT GUTHRIE:

Christening: 17 Mar 1782, Gordon, Berwickshire, Scotland

    

Children of ROBERT GUTHRIE and KATHARINE WELCH are:

    i.  ELIZABETH  GUTHRIE, b. 21 Mar 1808,Cupar, Fife, Cupar, Scotland.

 More About ELIZABETH GUTHRIE:

Christening: Cupar, Fifeshire, Scotland

     ii.  JOHN GUTHRIE b. 04 Apr 1806, Cupar Fife Scotland.

 More About JOHN GUTHRIE:

Christening: 17 Sep 1806, Cupar, Fifeshire, Scotland

 9.  MAGDALENE GUTHRIE (ALEXANDER, JOHN, PATRICK, ROBERT, ROBERT)was born 26 May 1782 in Ladykirk, Berwickshire, Scotland.  She married WILLIAM PATTERSON.  He was born Abt. 1765.

 More About MAGDALENE GUTHRIE:

Christening: 26 May 1782, Ladykirk, Berwickshire, Scotland

    Child of MAGDALENE GUTHRIE and WILLIAM PATTERSON is:

     i.   JAMES PATTERSON, b. 25 Aug 1785, Ladykirk, Berwickshire, Scotland.

 

 Generation No. 7

 

10.  JENNET GUTHRIE (ROBERT, ROBERT, JOHN, PATRICK, ROBERT, ROBERT) was born 08 Apr 1797 in Berwickshire Eyemouth Scotland.  She married (1) JAMES CRAWFORD 24 Mar 1822 in Berwick.  He was born Abt. 1790 in Headchesters, and died 1829 in Tynemouth.  She married (2) ROBERT MILLAR 19 Apr 1835 in St Quivox and Newton, Ayrshire, Scotland.  He was born Abt. 1790.  She married (3) ENEAS CRAIG268,268 12 Feb 1837 in Eyemouth268,268.  He was born Abt. 1790.

 

More About JENNET GUTHRIE:

Christening: 08 Apr 1797, Eyemouth268

    

Child of JENNET GUTHRIE and JAMES CRAWFORD is:

     i.   JEAN  CRAWFORD, b. 27 Oct 1829, Eyemouth Berwickshire Scotland.

 

    

Children of JENNET GUTHRIE and ENEAS CRAIG are:

     ii.  AGNES8 CRAIG, b. 17 Jan 1838, Berwick.

     iii. HANNAH CRAIG, b. Abt. Sep 1841, Berwick.

 

 

11.  THOMAS GUTHRIE (ROBERT, ROBERT, JOHN, PATRICK, ROBERT, ROBERT)was born Bet. 1799 – 1805 in Eyemouth, Berwick Scotland, and died 02 Dec 1886 in Meadowside Bathgate Midlothan Scotland.  He married CATHERINE BROWN daughter of WILLIAM BROWN and KATHERINE KAY.  She was born 10 Jan 1797 in Linlithgow Midlothian Scotland and died Bef. 1886.

 

Notes for THOMAS GUTHRIE:

living in Dalmeny 1829; Ratho 1838;  Kirkliston 1841 

On his death certificate it names his parents as Thomas Guthrie,(by trade a Cooper) and Isabella Thomson, Thornton or Johnston. On the census records it confirms as in the death record that he is married to Catherine Brown and that he was born in Eyemouth. The only person which fits in Eyemouth suggest that his father is Robert Guthrie. There are other Thomas Guthries born 1801- 1805 in Berwickshire but census records show that they still lived in Berwickshire at the time when our Thomas was in Midlothian

All searches show that I have the right parents and this suggest that there may be a mistake on the part of the registrar or person completing details of his death. 

 

On further research it looks as if she may have been another of Thomas’s in-laws  Isabella Walkinshaw. who was born in 1852 in Berwickshire.

 

The only records I can find are a marriage of a Thomas Guthrie to Mary Aitchison in Coldingham in 1820. Given that Thomas was born in Eymouth in 1800 it seems likely that this is an uncle.

 

 

 More About THOMAS GUTHRIE:

Christened: 04 Dec 1800, Eyemouth, Berwick Scotland291

Christening: 04 Dec 1800

Occupation: 1840, Ploughfarmer

Residence: 1841, eastfield ingilston

 

Notes for CATHERINE BROWN:

I can find no proof of Catherines birth death or marriage. This suggests that either Thomas and Catherine were never legally married or that her real name was different from her known name.  The information I have given was found on the ancestry web sight but proof is not availalbe.  However on census records Thomas has a wife Catherine Brown.  This is also on his death records

Given the locality of this family and the names which appear (Enoch Brown being the most obvious) it is more than likely this is the correct family.  It also explains where the name Enoch came from and entered the Guthrie family as it appears nowhere else.

Although information on this family further back are available from Anscetry.com (someone elses research) I can find no details of Catherine,s parents.

 

More About CATHERINE BROWN:

Christening: 10 Jan 1797, Linlithgow Scotland292

Residence: 1871, Ratho, Midlothian, Scotland293

    

Children of THOMAS GUTHRIE and CATHERINE BROWN are:

14.  i.   THOMAS GUTHRIE, b. Abt. 1814, Linlithgow, Scotland; d. 02 May 1892, Otakia, Otago, New Zealand.

     ii.  THOMAS GUTHRIE, b. 11 Jan 1820, Dalmeny West Lothian Scotland.

 

More About THOMAS GUTHRIE:

Census: 03 Apr 1881, 38, Duke Street, Coldstream, Berwick, Scotland

Occupation: 03 Apr 1881, Carter

Residence: 1841, Berwickshire, Scotland

 

     iii. ELIZABETH GUTHRIE, b. 07 Apr 1822, Dalmeny West Lothian Scotland.

 

More About ELIZABETH GUTHRIE:

Christening: 12 Apr 1822, Dalmeny West Lothian Scotland

 

15.  iv.  WILLIAM GUTHRIE, b. 20 Dec 1826, Dalmeny Scotland.

16.  v.   JAMES GUTHRIE, b. 10 Dec 1829, Dalmenny, West Lothian, Scotland; d. Bet. 1871 – 1920.

     vi.  MARGARET GUTHRIE, b. 29 Dec 1832, Midlothian Scotland.

17.  vii. ENOCH GUTHRIE, b. 12 Mar 1838, Dalmeny Midlothian Scotland; d. 09 Apr 1872, Hermiston Ratho Scotland.

 

 

12.  AGNES GUTHRIE (ROBERT, ROBERT, JOHN, PATRICK, ROBERT, ROBERT) was born 20 Dec 1808 in Eyemouth scotland.  She married JOHN INGLIS on 30 Nov 1828 in Union Bridge, son of WILLIAM INGLES and MARGARET LUMSDEN.  He was born Abt. 1800 in Berwicksire Scotland.

 

More About AGNES GUTHRIE:

Christened: 24 Dec 1808, Eyemouth

Christening: 24 Dec 1808, Eyemouth

    

Children of AGNES GUTHRIE and JOHN INGLIS are:

     i.   WILLIAM INGLIS, b. 19 Jun 1829, Eyemouth.

     ii.  ROBERT INGLIS, b. 16 Apr 1831, Eyemouth.

     iii. ELIZABETH (BETSY) INGLIS, b. 27 Jul 1834, Eyemouth.

 

 

13.  JOHN GUTHRIE (ROBERT, ROBERT, JOHN, PATRICK, ROBERT, ROBERT) was born 30 Jun 1811 in Eyemouth scotland.  He married SARAH MITCHELL.  She was born 1820 in Eccles, Berwick.

 

More About JOHN GUTHRIE:

Christening: 30 Jun 1811, Eyemouth

Residence: 1871, Swinton, Berwickshire, Scotland

 

More About SARAH MITCHELL:

Residence: 1871, Swinton, Berwickshire, Scotland

    

Children of JOHN GUTHRIE and SARAH MITCHELL are:

     i.   ANDREW GUTHRIE, b. 28 Feb 1846, Whitsome Berwickshire Scotland.

 

More About ANDREW GUTHRIE:

Christening: 28 Feb 1846, whitsone berwickshire scotland

 

     ii.  ARCHIBALD GUTHRIE, b. 09 Apr 1848, Whitsome Berwickshire Scotland.

 

More About ARCHIBALD GUTHRIE:

Christening: 09 Apr 1848, whitsone berwickshire scotland

 

     iii. GUTHRIE, b. 09 May 1850, Whitsome Berwickshire Scotland.

     iv.  ROBERT GUTHRIE, b. 1853, Whitsome, Berwick.

 

More About ROBERT GUTHRIE:

Occupation: 1901, boot & shoemaker

Residence: 1901, Swinton, Berwickshire, Scotland

 

     v.   SARAH GUTHRIE, b. 1856, Whitsome Berwickshire Scotland.

     vi.  MARGARET GUTHRIE, b. 1862, Swinton, Berwick

     vii. MARGARET J. GUTHRIE, b. 1863, Swinton Berwickshire Scotland.

     viii. MARY GUTHRIE, b. 1863, Swinton, Berwickshire.

 

More About MARY GUTHRIE:

Residence: 1871, Swinton, Berwickshire, Scotland

 

     ix.  JAMES GUTHRIE b. 1865, Swinton, Berwick.

     x.   JAMES GUTHRIE b. 1866, Swinton Berwickshire Scotland.

 

More About JAMES GUTHRIE:

Occupation: 1901, bootmaker

Residence: 1871, Swinton, Berwickshire, Scotland

 

     xi.  JOHN GUTHRIE, b. 09 May 1850, Swinton, Berwick.

     xii. ROBERT GUTHRIE, b. 31 Aug 1853, Dykeshead, Berwickshire Scotland.

 

 

Generation No. 8

 

14.  THOMAS  GUTHRIE (THOMAS,ROBERT,ROBERT,JOHN,PATRICK,ROBERT,ROBERT)was born Abt. 1814 in Linlithgow, Scotland and died 02 May 1892 in Otakia, Otago, New Zealand.  He married JEAN C SIBBALD daughter of WILLIAM SIBBALD and JANET DUNLOP.  She was born 18 Mar 1824 in Parkhead, West Lothian, Scotland and died 21 Sep 1899 in Dunedin Hospital, Otago, New Zealand.

    

Children of THOMAS GUTHRIE and JEAN SIBBALD are:

18.  i.   CATHERINE DUNLOP GUTHRIE, b. 14 Mar 1858, West Maitland, Edinburgh; d. 21 Jan 1897, Fernhill, Dunedin, New Zealand.

     ii.  JANET DUNLOP GUTHRIE, b. 02 Apr 1854, St.Cuthberts Edinburgh Scotland; d. 21 Jan 1897, Fernhill, Dunedin, New Zealand.

 

 

15.  WILLIAM GUTHRIE (THOMAS, ROBERT, ROBERT, JOHN, PATRICK, ROBERT, ROBERT) was born 20 Dec 1826 in Dalmeny Scotland.  He married MARY GOWARD 26 Sep 1847 in Kirkliston Lothians Scotland.  She was born 1817 in Kirkliston

 

More About WILLIAM GUTHRIE:

Residence: 1861, Currie, Midlothian, Scotland

 

More About MARY GOWARD:

Residence: 1861, Currie, Midlothian, Scotland

    

Children of WILLIAM GUTHRIE and MARY GOWARD are:

     i.   AGNES GUTHRIE, b. 1848, Linlithgow.

 

More About AGNES GUTHRIE:

Residence: 1851, Ratho, Midlothian, Scotland

 

     ii.  CATHERINE GUTHRIE, b. 1849, Kirkliston.

 

More About CATHERINE GUTHRIE:

Residence: 1861, Currie, Midlothian, Scotland

 

     iii. ELIZABETH M GUTHRIE, b. 1852, Edinburgh.

 

More About ELIZABETH M GUTHRIE:

Residence: 1861, Currie, Midlothian, Scotland

 

     iv.  THOMAS GUTHRIE, b. 1854, Midlothian.

 

More About THOMAS GUTHRIE:

Residence: 1861, Currie, Midlothian, Scotland342

 

     v.   JAMES GUTHRIE, b. 1856, North Leith, Midlothian.

 

More About JAMES GUTHRIE:

Residence: 1861, Currie, Midlothian, Scotland

 

 

16.  JAMES8 GUTHRIE (THOMAS, ROBERT, ROBERT, JOHN, PATRICK, ROBERT, ROBERT)was born 10 Dec 1829 in Dalmenny, West Lothian, Scotland, and died Bet. 1871 – 1920.  He married JANET LAWRIE 06 Jun 1859 in Bathgate, West Lothian, Scotland.  She was born Abt. 1829 in Roslin Edinburgh Scotland, and died Aft. 1921.

 

Notes for JAMES GUTHRIE:

Occupation    

Farmer, Meadowside Farm, Bathgate

farmer of 17 acre arable land employing own family

 

More About JAMES GUTHRIE:

Christening: 27 Dec 1829, Dalmeny, West Lothian

 Occupation: 1881, farmer 17 acres employing own family

Residence: 1881, Bathgate, West Lothian, Scotland

 

More About JANET LAWRIE:

Residence: 1881, Meadowside Farm House Bathgate Linlithgow Scotland

    

Children of JAMES GUTHRIE and JANET LAWRIE are:

19.  i.   THOMAS GUTHRIE, b. 24 Apr 1857, Linlithgow, West Lothian; d. 16 Jan 1915, 35 Dundee Terrace Edinburgh Scotland.

     ii.  JOHN GUTHRIE, b. 29 Nov 1858, Bathgate, West Lothian, Scotland; d. WFT Est. 1859-1948.

 

More About JOHN GUTHRIE:

Residence: 1871, Bathgate, West Lothian, Scotland

 

     iii. CATHERINE BROWN GUTHRIE, b. 05 Oct 1864, Bathgate, West Lothian, Scotland d. WFT Est. 1865-1958.

 

More About CATHERINE BROWN GUTHRIE:

Residence: 1881, Bathgate, West Lothian, Scotland

 

     iv.  JAMES GUTHRIE b. 09 Mar 1868, Bathgate, West Lothian, Scotland d. WFT Est. 1869-1958.

     v.   PETER GUTHRIE b. 09 Mar 1868, Bathgate, West Lothian, Scotland428,428; d. WFT Est. 1869-1958.

 

More About PETER GUTHRIE:

Residence: 1881, Bathgate, West Lothian, Scotland

 

 

17.  ENOCH GUTHRIE (THOMAS, ROBERT, ROBERT, JOHN, PATRICK, ROBERT, ROBERT) was born 12 Mar 1838 in Dalmeny Midlothian Scotland435, and died 09 Apr 1872 in Hermiston Ratho Scotland.  He married MARGARET BINNIE 06 Jun 1865 in Millbank Currie, daughter of RICHARD BINNIE and JANE SHEPHERD.  She was born 28 Mar 1841 in Currie West Lothian Scotland.

 

More About ENOCH GUTHRIE:

Census: 1851, says he is 13 living Ratho

Christening: 1838, Dalmenny, Linlithgow Scotland

Occupation: 1865, Blacksmith at Backley

Residence: 1861, Currie, Midlothian, Scotland

 

More About MARGARET BINNIE:

Occupation: 1865, Domestic servant

 

Notes for MARGARET BINNIE:

Margaret was probably a grandchild or close relative of Margaret Binnie who was in charge of the Blacksmith where Enoch worked

 

More About MARGARET BINNIE:

Baptism: 25 Apr 1841, Hermiston Currie Midlothian Scotland

Christened: 25 Apr 1841, Currie West Lothian Scotland

Occupation: 1865, Domestic servant

Residence: 1865, Eastmill Bank Currie Lothians Scotland

    

Children of ENOCH GUTHRIE and MARGARET BINNIE are:

20.  i.   THOMAS GUTHRIE, b. 15 Oct 1865, 8.45am at Currie Midlothian; parish of Hermiston or Pennington Scotland; d. 23 Jul 1951, Preston Str. Highvalleyfield Culross Fife Scotland.

     ii.  JEANNIE BINNIE GUTHRIE, b. 17 Sep 1868, Ratho Midlothian.

     iii. MARGARET ENOCH GUTHRIE, b. 09 Nov 1872, Ratho Midlothian.

 

 

Generation No. 9

 

18.  CATHERINE DUNLOP GUTHRIE (THOMAS, THOMAS, ROBERT, ROBERT, JOHN, PATRICK, ROBERT, ROBERT) was born 14 Mar 1858 in West Maitland, Edinburgh and died 21 Jan 1897 in Fernhill, Dunedin, New Zealand.  She married JAMES HOOD LAWRIE OLIVER.  He was born 1851 in Edinburgh, Scotland, and died 12 Nov 1906 in at his home, 11 Grange Street, Dunedin.

    

Child of CATHERINE GUTHRIE and JAMES OLIVER is:

     i.   JANET RUBY LAWRIE10 OLIVER, b. 21 May 1883, William Street, Christchurch; d. 11 Aug 1961, Timaru Public Hospital, Timaru.

 

 

19.  THOMAS GUTHRIE (JAMES, THOMAS, ROBERT, ROBERT, JOHN, PATRICK, ROBERT, ROBERT)was born 24 Apr 1857 in Linlithgow, West, and died 16 Jan 1915 in 35 Dundee Terrace Edinburgh Scotland.  He married MARGARET TAYLOR 29 Dec 1881 in Bathgate, West Lothian.  She was born 31 Jul 1862 in Whitburn, West Lothian, Scotland448 and died Bet. 1900 – 1957.

 

Notes for THOMAS GUTHRIE:

Facts about this person:

 

Occupation    

Cooper in Brewery

 

 

 Children of THOMAS GUTHRIE and MARGARET TAYLOR are:

     i.   AGNES COWAN GUTHRIE  b. 27 Jan 1897, Edinburgh d. Abt. 1898.

 

Notes for AGNES COWAN GUTHRIE:

in 1861 Agness is living with her Great Grand parents at the time of the census

 

     ii.  JAMES TAYLOR GUTHRIE  b. 23 Mar 1884, Edinburgh, Mid, Lothian, Scotland4 d. 20 Aug 1952, Greenock, Renfrewshire, Scotland.

     iii. JANET LAWRIE GUTHRIE b. 27 Oct 1888, Edinburgh, Mid, Lothian, Scotland d. 1893, Edinburgh, Mid, Lothian, Scotland

     iv.  MARGARET WILSON GUTHRIE b. 22 Oct 1886, Edinburgh   d. Abt. 1887.

     v.   THOMAS GUTHRIE b. 02 Jun 1891, Edinburgh, Mid, Lothian, Scotland d. 1893, Edinburgh, Mid, Lothian, Scotland

 

 

20.  THOMAS GUTHRIE (ENOCH, THOMAS, ROBERT, ROBERT, JOHN, PATRICK, ROBERT, ROBERT) was born 15 Oct 1865 in 8.45am at Currie Midlothian; parish of Hermiston or Pennington Scotland, and died 23 Jul 1951 in Preston Str. High Valleyfield Culross Fife Scotland. He married ELIZABETH ‘BESSIE’ LESLIE GILES 17 Jul 1896 in Kirkcaldy, daughter of JAMES GILES and ISABELLA WALKINSHAW.  She was born 02 Jul 1877 in Channelkirk Berwickshire Scotland, and died 18 Feb 1918 in Burnside cottage Oakley Fife Scotland.

 

Notes for THOMAS GUTHRIE:

In 1899 Thomas is described as a butcher. Family stories believe that he drank the profits of the business and so this would explain why he is in Dalkeith as a Coalminer in 1901. He must then have moved to Fife prior to 1918 when his wife died in Oakley West Fife. At some point after he retired he went to live with his daughter Isabella Walkinshaw Guthrie at Preston Str. High Valleyfield until he died in 1951.

It is interesting that his wife was born in Channelkirk Berwickshire, where the roots of the family came from and so it would suggest that there were still liks with the Berwickshire Guthries and the families they knew. However as 2 of Elizabeths siblings were born in Dalkeith it seems more likely that the Giles family moved there and that is where Thomas and Elizabeth met.

Further research showed that James Guthrie emigrated to New Zealand and his family were related to the Walkinshaws of Berwickshire (see below)

More About THOMAS GUTHRIE:

Occupation: 1899, Butcher

Residence: 1901, Dalkeith, Midlothian, Scotland

 

More About ELIZABETH ‘BESSIE’ LESLIE GILES:

Residence: 1901, Dalkeith, Midlothian, Scotland

    

  

Children of THOMAS GUTHRIE and ELIZABETH GILES are:

23.  iii. THOMAS GILES GUTHRIE, b. 02 Nov 1896, Caladonian Cresc. Edinburgh Scotland d. May 1964, Cameron Hospital Windygates Fife Scotland.

     iv.  JAMES GUTHRIE, b. 04 Oct 1901, 40 Westfield Park Dalkeith Scotland; d. 02 Jan 1964, Australia473,473; m. HELEN ANTHONY THOMPSON MCPHERSON, 28 Dec 1923, Carnock Fife Scotland; b. 17 Jan 1904, Newmills Fife Scotland; d. 19 Oct 1989, Newcastle South Wales Australia.

 

Notes for JAMES GUTHRIE:

He was a miner in Scotland before going out to Australia. Leaving from London in 1925 on the ship Morton Bay, arriving in Sydney, NSW Australia for a new life with his wife Helen Macpherson. They lived at first in Greta Main then Cessnock, Maitland, Beresfield, Cardiff, Medowie, then Tomago were he was a textile worker. 

 

 

24.  v.   ISABELLA WALKINSHAW GUTHRIE, b. 26 Feb 1899, caladonian Cresc. Edinburgh Scotland.

     vi.  MARGARET BINNIE GUTHRIE, b. 29 May 1904, 43 west? Park Newbattle Scotland; d. Abt. 1985, North Berwick Scotland; m. (1) TOM HOGG; m. (2) JOE MCCALLISTER.

 

Notes for MARGARET BINNIE GUTHRIE:

Margaret’s  and she did work – cooking or catering – in ‘the big house’  This was where she met Tom Hogg. He delivered groceries. Later he became a golf professional.

Margaret then went on to take ‘paying guests’  She looked after several elderly rich ladies and made a great deal of money through moving from one house to another and later selling.

When Tom died she later met Joe McCallister. He was married and as a Catholic his wife would not divorce him. When she died Margaret and Joe were married round about 1977. They were living in Orchard Brae Edinburgh. Later Margaret, again a widow moved to a Sheltered Housing complex in North Berwick where she died.

Margaret was always known to the family as Auntie Maggie 

 

 

Generation No. 10

 

21.  THOMAS GILES GUTHRIE (THOMAS, ENOCH, THOMAS, ROBERT, ROBERT, JOHN, PATRICK, ROBERT, ROBERT) was born 1898 in dalkeith scotland, and died Abt. 1945.  He married ANN RITCHIE 27 Jul 1918 in United Free Manse Carnock, daughter of ANDREW RITCHIE and BARBARA HUNTER.  She was born 1899 in scotland, and died Abt. 1980 in Milesmark Hospital Fife Scotland.

 

More About THOMAS GILES GUTHRIE:

Military service: 1918, WWW 1 Private Cameron Highlander

Occupation: 1918, Coalminer

a little story from the family says that one day he was given a Woodbine cigarette from a friend. He normally smoked Capstain full strength.  With disgust he declared that it was a cigarette with malnutrition

    

Children of THOMAS GUTHRIE and ANN RITCHIE are:

    

7 daughters 3 sons  – 2 daughters and 2 sons still living. 2 daughters and their families emigrated to Australia in the 1950’s

 

 

 

 

 

 

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  1. not sure what you mean here….

  2. I am unable to understand this post. But well some points are useful for me.

  3. Hi Tieptapple Do you mean that the page on the Guthrie family is difficult to understand. It is only a list of people within our family and the data that goes with them. I am in the process of putting it into book form so that it is more easy to read.
    Hope this helps

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  6. Hi thought your name sounded familliar but couldnt think why til read your blog these are my grannys grand parents or great grand parents . Generation 8children of WILLIAM GUTHRIE and MARY GOWARD ( i have gowans but am sure the same people) this is my grannys grandparent. iii. ELIZABETH M GUTHRIE, b. 1852, Edinburgh.

  7. William is my daughters second great grand uncle – on her father’s side of the family……a bit of a mouthful to work out. So where do you fit in Bethany

  8. Wow,

    what great stuff you have here! From my research it seems that Robert Guthrie is my 5th great grandfather, and so on. You have a real treasure trove here.

    It is late now, but I will have to really look over all this, this weekend. It seems you have taken the line back significantly

    Thank you
    Jeff
    Toronto

  9. I will be very interested to know where you link into the family and which Robert you are related to. It is worth knowing as you look at things that there is a bit of a mystery about Thomas Guthrie born 1800. I have more information than is on this page as I am compiling the tree elsewhere. If you have more information about one of the older Roberts I will look forward to an exchange of information

  10. Hi Jeff
    I await with interest for the results of your search.

  11. Hi Lilian,
    Great research, very interesting. I have the info of the family who came to Australia. John Samuel born 1857. At the age of 14 John was a pupil at Harrow School, London. He married Hannah Barker , born 1858, Maldon, Essex in 1878 when he was only 20 years old and returned to Scotland. about 1880 when he was 24. Hannah and John emigrated to Australia in 1882 aboard the “Duke Athol”. He was born at Longformass, Midlothian lived at Edinburgh St Cuthberts, Midlothian when he returned to Scotland. Prior to that he had been a Private in the Royal Guards at Windsor when he was 21 years old.
    He was still living in Lakes Creek Road North, Rockhampton when he passed away. John and Hannah chose to live near the end of Frenchville Road in the foothills of Mt. Archer because it reminded John of the hills and dales of Scotland. He was a representative of the East India Trading Company which d. imported many necessities of the time, the main one being tea. He later set up the Singer Sewing Machine Company in Rockhampton. They established an orchard with Mangoes, Custard Apples, Peaches, Apples, Oranges and Lemons as well as vegetables grown on the Frenchman’s Creek Flat.
    (This story written by Susanne Margaret Pearson ( nee Guthrie) grand daughter of John and Hanna, daughter of John Owen Guthrie and published in the local newspaper..

  12. Hellow there I am very interested in the story you tell. A number of the Guthrie family right down to my husbands Aunts (still alive) emigrated to Australia and New Zealand. I am not sure of the top of my head where John and Hanna fit into the family but give me a couple of days and I will go back over the material. At the moment I am just proof reading a small book which I am publishing in Blurb, a self publishing on line site. I will give you the link for that at the same time. In the meantime thanks for you information.

  13. Hello,
    I am a great-granddaughter of John and Hannah. My grandmother (Beatrice) was their youngest daughter. However, I can’t locate where John fits into your history. He was born in Guthrie in 1857.

  14. Thomas Guthrie D.D. (1803–1873) was a Scottish divine and philanthropist, born at Brechin in Angus (at that time also called Forfarshire). He was one of the most popular preachers of his day in Scotland, and was associated with many forms of philanthropy – especially temperance and Ragged Schools, of which he was a founder. This is not an easy one but my granny was told by her parents & grandparents that they were related to this Guthrie ?

  15. How interesting. Unfortunately he is not one of our family unless by a very fragile link. Maybe you are related to us

  16. Children of ROBERT GUTHRIE and ELIZABETH HUME are:
    7. i. ROBERT GUTHRIE, b. 08 Aug 1762, Eyemouth Berwickshire Scotland; d. WFT Est. 1822-1848,
    Robert begins the line of proven anscestry
    Would you be able to forward on any info you have about this Robert Guthrie and who u think his parents are thanks Bethany.

  17. Hi Bethany I will try and get information together for you. Bit of problem at home at the moment – workmen rebuilding a room and chaos reigns. Will do my best

  18. Thanks much appreciated just when ever u can mange, There is another person with the same Robert Guthrie so have asked the same from her an hopefully it all ties in I fit in to the tree Generation 8 children of WILLIAM GUTHRIE and MARY GOWARD son v. JAMES GUTHRIE, b. 1856, North Leith, Midlothian. married Mary Shaw b 1854 they had Elisabeth Margaret Guthrie b1896 she is my great- grandmother


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